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    On Disney buying Fox: Bringing Fantastic Four home

    By Matthew Martin
    | May 15, 2018
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    Earlier this year we looked at what Disney’s purchase (in principle) of 20th Century Fox might mean for the X-Men. In short, there is a lot that can be done with the mutants and their many beloved characters, and the ways to reintegrate them into the MCU are numerous. It’s actually a pretty cut and dry situation (assuming of course that the Disney/Fox deal goes through).

    It’s not so cut and dry with Fantastic Four.

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    While Fox actually owns the movie rights to the X-Men and related properties, they don’t actually own the same rights with regards to the First Family of Marvel comics. Those rights are held by Constantin Film, who merely lease the rights to Fox to make movies on their behalf.

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    Constantin is not a major film player. They’re a German-based production company that secured the F4 rights from Stan Lee during an era (the mid-80’s) where comic book movies were thought of as a passing fad. The Chris Reeve Superman movies had come and gone with relative (albeit diminishing) success and Marvel wanted in on the game.

    Unfortunately, it soon became apparent that Constantin had neither the will nor the skill to make a Marvel movie comparable to even the worst of the original Superman movies. They sat on the rights for six years before finally—when faced with ownership reverting to Marvel—released a zero-budget adaptation solely to hold on to the property. The result is arguably the most infamous comic book movie ever made…

    Fantastic Four 1994 Poster

    (Check out Youtube for more on this…)

    After that abomination, nothing else was done with the property until Constantin leased the rights to Fox to make the 2005 origin story. The movie was mediocre but at least it tried. It came from an era before comic book movies became a big deal (though it was in the years after Spider-Man and X-Men had become huge hits and the same year Chris Nolan rebooted Batman), and it’s clear Fox didn’t really know how to translate the light-hearted characters the way they had done the grittier X-Men. Still, it was successful enough to warrant a sequel two years later…but that was more of the same and what was passable in 2005 was trite in 2007.

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    Fantastic Four 2007 Silver Surfer Poster

    It took nearly a decade before another try was made. By then comic book movies had exploded, with The Dark Knight trilogy becoming a billion-dollar franchise, and the MCU becoming the new big tuna. Fox’s X-Men movies had been going on throughout the time interim but the studio wanted to get in on the “shared universe” craze; bringing the X-Men and Fantastic Four properties together made sense.

    But Fox never really knew how to make a “comic book” movie.

    The studio made a few good adaptations but none that really captured the essence of the comics. X2 came the closest, and Days of Future Past was solid too, but the rest has been varying shades of mediocre (not counting Deadpool which is very much an auteur film). To make Fantastic Four compatible with the X-Men, Fox assumed they needed to make F4 as gritty as the X-Men. They hired a promising young director, who…

    Look, it…it was a fiasco. Just read this…

    Fantastic 4 Review: Now with random outbursts of anger!

    And read this…

    Lesson learned: Four observations from the Fantastic Four fallout

    For fans of the Fantastic Four characters, who have wanted and waited to see a faithful adaptation, one that embraces the heart as well as the insanity, it’s been a long slog.

    And now that Disney has Fox in their four-fingered grasp, it’s finally time to see them done the MCU way…the right way. As for whether or not the contract Fox has with Constantin simply transfers over when Disney buys the company or if the deal becomes null and void is a fuzzy matter that lawyers on all sides are no doubt working on. For what it’s worth, Bob Iger (Disney CEO) said that, as a result of the Fox purchase, the Fantastic Four would become “integrated” into the MCU. No matter what, even if Disney is not able to cleanly obtain the rights alongside Fox, they can simply pay whatever Constantin wants either to lease the characters or outright buy back the rights entirely.

    Suffice to say: Disney is not going to let them slip away; there’s too much at stake with the MCU printing money hand over fist right now.

    Disney has proven with Kevin Feige and the MCU that they understand tone, look, sounds, casting (most important, I’d say) and how to adapt source material. They made the Guardians of the Galaxy work. They made Doctor Strange work. They can make the Fantastic Four work too.

    The real question fans have is: How will they integrate the universe into the MCU?

    And I think the answer is so obvious it almost seems too easy. It’s actually the best solution I can think of for integrating the X-Men into the MCU as well. And really, that’s the tougher story to tell, since F4’s origin story can be told at any time, but the idea of a secret society of Mutants that’s been running around since the 60’s is a hard sell considering all the opportunities they’ve had to come out and do some good (like during the action happening in any of the Avengers movies).

    So how do you bring these previously unseen characters into an already-established universe? Two words:

    SECRET WARS

    Marvel Logo

    If you’re not familiar, the Secret Wars storyline (not the 80’s version, but the more recent, 2015 story) was a major comics crossover event from a few years ago, designed to…wait for it…integrate multiple Marvel Comics universes into one. And it just so happens that the Russo Bros., who directed Infinity War, have said that it’s an idea they’d love to explore that story in the future.

    Obviously, like with Civil War and Infinity War, we wouldn’t expect a true “translation” of the story, but an adaptation of the major idea could work. How? Imagine if the Disney-owned Fox rebooted X-Men and Fantastic Four under Feige’s oversight but under the Fox umbrella. Keep the franchises as a separate movie universe, re-establish them and then, when the time is right, collide the universes together in an epic Infinity War-style crossover film.

    How do you top a movie event like Infinity War/Avengers 4? It’s a two-parter that takes everything before it and blows it up. The only way to top it is to take everything that’s come before it and a whole new universe of characters, and blow them both up.

    When the dust settles, we can finally get Doom vs Strange, Galactus vs Guardians, etc.

    The possibilities are endless.

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    MidNight
    MidNight
    5 years ago

    I tried to read about the Secret Wars and I am too confused. Too many characters and plot integrated into one world. Balancing an ensemble movie like Infinity War is hard enough, so how are they going to pull the Secret Wars? MCU seems to have great writers on board, though, so I’m ready for surprises. For now, this family can probably take a good rest before fighting once more.

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    5 years ago
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    I am a kid at heart so I still watch cartoons every now and then. There is a cartoon series on the Disney channel entitled The Avengers. Season 2 is about the Secret Wars and they have combined different characters into one single universe, even before the Infinity War movie was released. I’m guessing Disney might include F4 into that mixed or create their own F4 cartoon series.

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    MidNight
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    5 years ago
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    It feels too sad if the family would only return to the cartoon world, but it’s probably for the better if the movie world can’t do them justice. They are not integrated into any story arc as far as I can recall, so I guess we won’t lose much even if it goes that way.

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    holy55
    holy55
    5 years ago

    I thought the best F4 movie was the 2005 one. It started off pretty nice, but the sequel didn’t make me ask for more. If Marvel let their best writers to reboot F4, maybe we can really see something great. I thought MCU is already planned far ahead, so I won’t cross my fingers to see F4 joining the band. It’s a nice hope, though.

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    Cyn
    Cyn
    5 years ago

    I think Disney usually does a great job with action movies, but I’ve seen enough of this genre for a while. I’ve enjoyed the hero themed movies these past of couple of years but I’m ready for something new.

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    surfari
    surfari
    5 years ago

    There’s no way Disney won’t get their hands on this franchise. I think they could do The Fantastic Four justice. I’d love to see them mingling with other universes as well. I don’t really see Fox putting up too much of a fight.

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    tbb033
    tbb033
    5 years ago

    At least Constantin’s version didn’t mess up the races of the Storm siblings.

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    Jenny
    Jenny
    5 years ago

    I have always been a big Disney. Their magic will surely bring The Fantastic Four back into focus. Even crossing universes will give them move depth and character. I do hope they choose the right people to play the right characters. I look forward to see where this goes.

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